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Offline Mugea

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Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« on: May 18, 2017, 12:35:37 PM »
Had a moon phase already

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 02:25:52 PM »
Huh?
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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 02:28:02 PM »
Looks like he forgot to post the image of the box.  My take is that he bought the box after already owning the watch.

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 05:04:08 PM »
Damn phone screen. Yeah, that could be it. I was thinking he was looking for a box, but maybe you are right.

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 10:55:54 PM »
Hm, something went wrong...... next try:


Had a moon phase already

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 10:59:26 PM »
What's going on here? Copied the whole text plus all links to the photos, hit the "preview" button, all thinks OK (photos were visible) then "post" - and half of the text and all photos vanished! No, I'm not operating from my phone, but from my PC.

Next try:


Had a moon phase already

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 11:01:21 PM »
No idea what's wrong - same thing again: First sentence is in, the rest isn't..... I give up for the time being.

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 11:28:15 PM »
Last try:

Had a moon phase already; now I landed a matching box what I consider to be an early one. I guess, the box is from the late 40s or early 50s. What do you think?












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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 07:35:01 AM »
I think the box is correct for the watch, but I think the hands on the warch are from a later model. I cannot access the catalogs today, maybe someone else can and then weigh in.
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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 10:55:58 AM »
I think the box is correct for the watch, but I think the hands on the warch are from a later model. I cannot access the catalogs today, maybe someone else can and then weigh in.

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Hands have been switched at some point, and arrow should have a red tip.

Cool box though, I do not know that I have ever seen one of those in person before  :sm3

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 11:00:13 AM »
I am wondering if the box might be for the earlier manual wind model of Triple Date Moonphase though?

It was a big deal for the model of 3DMP that you have to be an Automatic 3DMP, and I would have thought it would be mentioned on the box that it was.  Don't know if that is true, but might be possible considering on how they usually marked/promoted on boxes and materials.

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 11:37:58 AM »
I am wondering if the box might be for the earlier manual wind model of Triple Date Moonphase though?

It was a big deal for the model of 3DMP that you have to be an Automatic 3DMP, and I would have thought it would be mentioned on the box that it was.  Don't know if that is true, but might be possible considering on how they usually marked/promoted on boxes and materials.

Good point! Yes, "Automatic" isn't mentioned - so, yes, right, the box could (probably) be for the forerunner, i. e. the manual wind model.

The hands were changed at some point? Urrgs! Good (bad) to know that!

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 02:24:40 PM »
Not sure if they made the automatic designation on the box almost 70 years ago, but maybe. Could be.
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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 02:26:51 PM »


The hands were changed at some point? Urrgs! Good (bad) to know that!

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2017, 04:34:26 AM »
I have the similar MP with similar hands. But box I think from early watch with hand wind

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2017, 09:35:09 AM »
I have not had a chance to look. Is this model in a catalog with these hands?
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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2017, 11:00:21 AM »
Hi evghenii,

thanks for posting your MP. Interesting to see identical hands on yours.

Should it be of help: SN of mine (case back) is 1282265; marked inside with "908" ; movement is a Zodiac 1402 (AS 1402N).

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2017, 04:06:05 PM »
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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2017, 05:17:49 PM »
OK, I just had a chance to check the catalogs for a dial with the hands you both have. In every catalog that has that dial here are the hands. Your hands appear in the later 60's on the newer dial. The give away here is the art deco numerals. I think both of your 3DMPs have had the hands replaced with those from the later 60's models.

Just my opinion. Have a look at My Watches for 2 other examples, one where the hands were replaced and the other all original.

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Re: Very early (?) Moon phase Box
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2017, 05:59:49 AM »
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My opinion that hands are original. We obtain already several identical hours with the same replaced arrows.

 

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