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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Gerarld Genta Zodiac Kingline
« Last post by YuriyV on May 19, 2018, 07:24:30 PM »
I believe, the crown is a replacement as well...
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Gerarld Genta Zodiac Kingline
« Last post by Cobber on May 19, 2018, 05:59:46 PM »
 I hope I got somebody's attention with that subject title.  :dh

 Please have a look at eBay item number;

192229773147

The Spanish 1977 catalog has this as a Kingline Automatic on page 7 and I am absolutely obsessed with it right now.
 The main items holding me back on this are;
1)  rivets in bezel do not match screws in catalog photo
2)  missing screw in case back
3)  at least one missing screw in bracelet

 My concerns are that some of the bezel screw holes were stripped at some point (gold is soft) and some clever watchmaker incorporated a rivet pattern as substitute. This is also my concern for the bracelet and case back.  Replacing screws could require retapping  and/or be very expensive.  That being said, this design has many of the hallmarks of a Genta design.
The bracelet is likely a one off design for this model only.   And that being said..., it's a seriously cool design.

 If anybody has any info on this model please post as the catalog gives zero description. The only acknowledgment of its existence is the one catalog's photos.  I suspect this model was made for at least a couple years.  The item on eBay has a different bezel/dial combo than what is shown in the catalog.   Also, a similar model with a different bracelet appears on the cover of the catalog indicating to me that Zodiac had high hopes for this design line.  Of coarse we're missing 1976, 78, and 79.
 
Of curious note to me, I guess this represents the era Zodiac first started using fixed dot dial signifiers.   I had always thought this was a Monnier invention but looks now to have started under the Calame era.

 Of further curious note to me, I just became aware that during the 1975 era Trauner was importing Vacheron Constantin as well as Zodiac. A letter to some Zodiac dealers introducing their new sales rep indicatied as much. This letter can be found  posted along with the 1975 catalog. This is interesting to me for the long standing belief, which may or may not be true,  that Genta designed Vacheron's 222.  I should say it's mostly been debunked but interesting none the less.

In any case, food for thought...

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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: New to the Club
« Last post by YuriyV on May 18, 2018, 06:39:37 PM »
Yes, it is different.
Zodiac 71 is AS 1700/01. Google it.
1700 is previous generation. Worked on lower beat rate 18000 bph, Comparing to 70-72 working on 21600 bph.
Although they both are compatible by caliber size and hand arbors. But dial layouts are different.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: New to the Club
« Last post by joeabroad on May 18, 2018, 05:20:12 PM »
Thanks for the welcome, everyone. And now for my first probably stupid question: I hear a lot about the Cal. 70-72. This watch has a Cal. 71 (sorry, no picture handy). Is that very different? I can't seem to find out anything about it.
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I pulled the strap off.   Interesting reverse spring bar design.

What do y'all think?

Is this normal for a case?

Yes, it is normal for the era.  The use of cases requiring "female" spring bars was not uncommon.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: ID on 1940s Gold case 17jewel Chronogragh
« Last post by Sc-Texas on May 18, 2018, 12:58:45 PM »
I pulled the strap off.   Interesting reverse spring bar design.

What do y'all think?

Is this normal for a case?
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: New to the Club
« Last post by Butch on May 18, 2018, 09:19:05 AM »
VERY nice start!

 :#Clapping
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: New to the Club
« Last post by noelekal on May 17, 2018, 11:55:05 PM »
Wolf  Wolf ... !!!

My favorite.  No date.
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Fake, I take it.
« Last post by Butch on May 16, 2018, 02:07:19 PM »
You are correct sir. A smart collector as well.

A better question to be asked with these is:

"Why would a reputable Swiss watch company put their name on a one jewel wonder?"

 :sam
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Fake, I take it.
« Last post by joeabroad on May 16, 2018, 01:18:10 PM »
292565464684

From a few threads, I gather that these jump hours are all fakes. There are a few on eBay right now. Glad I searched here first!
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