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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: expensive lesson
« Last post by Butch on January 02, 2019, 11:45:32 AM »
 :pimp;
Well, at least it does not say all original, NOS, etc.
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: expensive lesson
« Last post by Ultra-Vintage on January 02, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »
Wow, that one hurts my eyes  :#banghead
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / expensive lesson
« Last post by jmh86325 on January 01, 2019, 10:09:17 PM »
i'm amazed that folks will shell out $500+ to get a lesson,  When, for a couple of key strokes all that info if free... :SB:

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And to all the fellow enthusiasts...wishing you a safe, healthy and prosperous new year...Jose
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Setting a 60s vintage Automatic Triple Date Moonphase
« Last post by Butch on December 31, 2018, 05:51:00 PM »
Not saying anything about any particular seller here. Just some food for thought for anyone reading this.

A Seller probably pays $200-$300 for a 3DMP to begin with.
A real service runs $300-500 depending on how bad off it is and any needed parts.
These things resell for $500-900, depending on condition.
Do the math here.

When any seller says it has been serviced I seriously doubt that it was more than a $40 dunk and swish. A real watchmaker will spend a week just getting the pushers to work right on these 40-60 year old 3DMPs.

NOT selling this, but if I were to, this one would go for $1,500. See what I am saying?


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Many thanks for your generosity with this information.

With hands in the proper position I can get the moonphase to advance, the day & date "flex" (move slightly) but won't click to the next position, and the month doesn't budge. Time to go back to the seller who services watches.

That would be my suggestion as well.  Since they are the ones that had it serviced, and whom you purchased it from, it is best to have them check it out.  Having a third party check it out may void any warranty the seller provided you at the time of purchase.
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Many thanks for your generosity with this information.

With hands in the proper position I can get the moonphase to advance, the day & date "flex" (move slightly) but won't click to the next position, and the month doesn't budge. Time to go back to the seller who services watches.
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The month must be advanced manually.  Zodiac only had 1 or 2 manual wind models that were "perpetual" (month advanced with the running of the watch or with the corrector button).

No, with the watch showing 4-6 o'clock (am or pm).

Crown does not need to be pulled out to use corrector buttons.

Sounds like the buttons themselves are jammed or filled with debris.  The corrector buttons for these models can be problematic.  Are you trying to push them with something small enough to allow them to go as deep as they need to?
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Do you still have this waatch band?
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Day, date & moonphase are advancing as you indicate, but the month does not. Do I understand correctly that the month must be advanced manually? Moonphase advancing by the button at noon - I won't do that again knowing what I do now - but none of the other three complications advance although the day & date moved slightly in response to the buttons, but do not click to the next position.

Trying to be cautious (now that I know of the potential damage I can cause) - does it matter if it is 4 to 6 AM versus PM? Too I assume the crown should be pulled out, stopping movement, when setting these other complications?
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I always tell customers to only use the advancement buttons when the watch shows between 4 and 6 o'clock.  The day-date advances at 12am, the moonphase at 12pm, however, the buildup to these can be long and it starts much earlier than that (and it can take a while for the parts to clear after said function has happened).  So using the advancement buttons before/after that time can bend the levers/springs involved in making those functions work.  Additionally, there can be other issues with the buttons in that they might not be moving smoothly and can get jammed.  In that case, not only will they not advance the day/date/moonphase respectively but they can also prevent them from advancing during the normal running of the movement.

So unfortunately, the problem could be one or multiple things along that line.  A "serviced" watch should not have any of these issues, but if these things were not addressed during the service they are sure to pop up again afterwards.
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