Last post by bumo79 - August 05, 2023, 01:54:44 PM
Dear gentlemen thank you very much for the extensive information. I am happy to be a part of this forum. I collect Zodiac watches exclusively and find the pocket watch an interesting addition to my collection. I have had it for two years and want to keep it in original condition. I found a working movement with dial and hands in Switzerland, I like it very much and it is from it that I plan to make a wristwatch. I wonder if it's not the legendary Triumph cal.1617, but I'm not sure. The cost is about $160, I think it is a fair price. Among Zodiac pocket watches there is a very rare limited edition model with a beautiful engraving depicting a scene from a horse-drawn carriage race, produced on behalf of a French organizer. Over the past 12 years, only 2 pieces have appeared on European sales portals. They sold out immediately and I didn't even manage to take a screen shot.I will add a picture in this topic as soon as this watch reappears. Greetings !
Last post by Adam126 - August 05, 2023, 12:18:09 PM
My mother collected watches back in the 80s and 90s. She was a big fan of Zodiacs, and gave me this one when I went to college in 88. I stopped wearing it after graduation, and forgot about it for almost 30 years. My wife found it in an old jewelry box a few months ago, and she loved the way it looked on my wrist, so I decided to have it repaired. It's like having an old friend come back from the dead!
Last post by YuriyV - August 04, 2023, 11:28:33 AM
Thanks for submitting photos. It is hard to be certain about exact dating. But we can guess by triangulating visible properties to some known information. For instance, caliber. It reminds me Alpina 2XX model line from 1930s. Later it became Unitas 2XX series. And then famous ETA 6497 still in production up to these days. By parts finish and machining applied I'd speculate it won't be 1930s. And I'm sure this particular shock protection device was done on Zodiac factory by modifying ebauche caliber. There are other interesting things visible - assay marks on the silver case. Especially "FFBA 43". I think 43 could indicate year of case manufacture/certification/assay . So most likely the watch from 1940s. Just guessing. But anyway, it is very interesting piece. It would be very sorry if it will be converted to a wrist watch. Small piece of Zodiac history will disappear. As alternative, I'd suggest to use a modern ETA caliber of the same size for your wrist watch project. Take a look at ETA 6498. It is same but it has different layout where your crown will be on 3 o'clock and sub-second at 6. Exactly what you need for wrist watch.
Last post by YuriyV - August 03, 2023, 11:38:42 PM
Thank you in advance for providing more input regarding the movement. It is interesting to take a look under the hood. My doubts based on using marketing feature Incasecurit. It refers to anti shock device, used in movement. And usually Incasecurit featured Zodiac wrist watches dated late 1940s or early 1950s. But Incabloc was patented in 1934 if memory serves me right. Intriguing to see what kind of anti shock device used here.