Zodiac Talk => Ask BWG! => Topic started by: LunaLooker on January 04, 2020, 11:21:37 AM

Title: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: LunaLooker on January 04, 2020, 11:21:37 AM
I don't like my watches winding down, and I also don't like watch winders. So, I like to handwind my automatics every morning to keep them going for the day if I'm not wearing them that day. Is this generally an okay idea, or a bad idea?

I currently have watches with the following automatic movements:

Sea-Gull ST2153 (clone of ETA 2824 with power reserve, moon phase, and pointer date modules)
Seiko 6R15
Zodiac 74
ETA 2824-2
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 04, 2020, 12:02:28 PM
http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/zforums/index.php/topic,905.0.html (http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/zforums/index.php/topic,905.0.html)

Now that we got that out of the way, let's discuss your obsessive compulsive behavior....  ;)
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Ultra-Vintage on January 04, 2020, 01:41:15 PM
Winding them should not cause any damage as long as they are still within their service life (adequate lubrication still present).  However, not running them while they are not being worn is ok too.  A serviced watch, stored in a proper environment (room temp, dust/moisture free) is perfectly fine not running until you decide to wear it again considering the highly refined oils used during the service presently.
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 04, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
Thanks UV! NOW, can we talk about his obsessive compulsive behavior?

:sici
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Ultra-Vintage on January 04, 2020, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: Butch on January 04, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
Thanks UV! NOW, can we talk about his obsessive compulsive behavior?

:sici

:laugh:
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 05, 2020, 10:21:18 AM
OK, OK, OK. <Lethal Weapon 2> As UV says you won't hurt them but I don't think you are helping them either. I have a few watches (all serviced) and when I decide to wear one that is the day it gets wound. Today I can't see the date window unless I put on my reading glasses and really look hard, so I normally do not bother setting that.

LL, you say that you don't like my watches winding down, is there any specific reason there? Or is it just that if you change watches you want any of them to be ready to go?
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: LunaLooker on January 05, 2020, 01:21:01 PM
No particular reason. I am pretty sure it is just some minor neuroticism on my part :P I sometimes like to measure the accuracy of my watches using the WatchCheck app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.uhrenbastler.watchcheck&hl=en), and that requires making sure that they continue running for days.

I can probably train myself to just wind the watch I want to wear that day, as you do, and not really worry about the accuracy. If I really wanted accuracy, I should just continue to rely on my mobile phone  :D
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 05, 2020, 02:12:48 PM
Funny you should say that. For all the banging I do on kortz watches I have always said if one wants an accurate chrono one should buy a GOOD kortz model.
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Cobber on January 06, 2020, 02:18:49 PM
As long as we're talking obsessive compulsive disorder, I once read  :dh that if you haven't worn one of your mechanical watches in a while it's probably best not to fully wind it immediately.  Reasoning being, the oil may have some what settled and fully winding it up can cause undo stress on items not adequately lubricated (insert 'that's what she said joke' here).  If I remember the gist of the article, supposedly the better method is to wind the watch up partially wait some period of time to allow the lubrication to evenly distribute than fully wind the movement.

I believe the write up was more intended for vintage collectors (may have even read it here) but, if true, I suspect this method would probably benefit any mechanical watch that someone values.

Any thoughts?  I believed it when I read it, seemed to make sense.  I even started wearing watches that hadn't received much attention to bed just so the oil would get moved around a bit.
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 06, 2020, 05:44:12 PM
http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/watchrepair.php (http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/watchrepair.php)
http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/zforums/index.php/topic,905.0.html (http://www.vintagezodiacs.com/zforums/index.php/topic,905.0.html)

You may be thinking of these. OR something you read elsewhere, but everything you say makes total sense to me Cobber. Good sound advice.
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Cobber on January 07, 2020, 12:44:53 PM
Yep, that's it.  The first link.  I think over the years my brain has applied some loose associative rule of math to my interpretation.   
Title: Re: Obsessively winding an automatic
Post by: Butch on January 07, 2020, 02:16:32 PM
Yes, you are getting older too.