Zodiac Talk => I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... => Topic started by: whatsyoursign on July 28, 2014, 06:03:20 PM

Title: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: whatsyoursign on July 28, 2014, 06:03:20 PM
Would appreciate the forum's thoughts on this one.  Currently on auction on the 'bay.   It was represented to me as authentic, however I would like some more expert opinions.  Thanks in advance for your help.

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Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: Butch on July 28, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
Looks real enough to me, but it is sold. Here is another at 161372932033
Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: whatsyoursign on July 28, 2014, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: Butch on July 28, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
Looks real enough to me, but it is sold. Here is another at 161372932033

Thanks Butch, very sorry for posting the direct  link improperly in my previous post!

And thanks for pointing out this one -161372932003 -  which looks good, right, even though movement and caseback unsigned?

Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: Saloonkeeper on July 28, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
Yeah, I have that one on my watch list. It will be interesting to see what it goes for and it does look nice, to me. It is already getting to the point where I will most likely not participate given my affinity for buying Vintage Zodiacs the past couple of months.
Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: gaimrox on July 28, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
This one doesn't look right to me at all. Can someone jump in and comment as to the authenticity of this specific watch?

I own a watch that is very similar to this one, some notable differences are the hands, the caseback styling, movement stamp and finally the caseback itself is not stamped either.

To me it looks like someone bought a cheapo 7733 watch and simply replaced the dial...

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: Saloonkeeper on July 29, 2014, 06:09:28 AM
I'm not an expert but I can point out a couple of things. The same seller listed both of the watches in the above threads. The first one that sold had nicer hands; the movement was signed and the dial had the Zodiac logo. The second one (which is up for sale right now) doesn't have the same sub-dial hands, no Zodiac logo on the dial and the movement is unsigned.
Title: Re: Zodiac Chronograph... Authentic or......?
Post by: Butch on July 29, 2014, 07:09:19 AM
Guys, I did not look too closely at them, just the models. Someone can check the catalogs to confirm dials and hands. To my knowledge, with the exception of the solid gold cases, Zodiac cases were "always" marked, if not on the outside then inside the case back. And the 60's and 70's models had case reference numbers inside too.

UltraVintage is an active chrono collector and probably the best thing we have here for an expert.

I actually have a model like this. If BWG will ever get it finished and sent back to me I will post it in the For Sale section.