Zodiac Talk => General Zodiac Discussion => Topic started by: ErichKeane on August 19, 2026, 12:47:06 PM

Title: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: ErichKeane on August 19, 2026, 12:47:06 PM
Hi all-
I'm trying to fix up a 72B in a 722-946, and it arrived to me with a broken winding stem.  My research/other posts here have shown this is basically unobtainable to replace, but I had a few questions:

1- Can the 70-72 stem be installed in the 72b?  I know the only difference is quick-set-date, but it would presumably be acceptable to be missing that.

2- Barring that, does anyone know the differences/can show a picture of the differences between the two?  I guess I could always pick up a lathe and try to modify it if it isn't horribly different.

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: Butch on August 20, 2026, 05:58:47 AM
All I can offer is that the parts catalog shows the same stem, 401, for all 7x and 8x calbers. Can anyone else offer anything on this?
Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: Ultra-Vintage on August 20, 2026, 12:56:15 PM
Not the same stem at all, completely different shape.  Being a different stem shape also means the winding pinion and sliding gear have different hole sizes as well.  Long story short, use only the correct stem.
Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: Butch on August 21, 2026, 06:02:37 AM
Thanks UV! I did not think so and was surprised the parts catalog said that.
Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: ErichKeane on August 21, 2026, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: Ultra-Vintage on August 20, 2026, 12:56:15 PMNot the same stem at all, completely different shape.  Being a different stem shape also means the winding pinion and sliding gear have different hole sizes as well.  Long story short, use only the correct stem.

I realized I have a 70-72 as well in my 'TODO' pile (though its missing a bezel, so it might never get to 'do'), and pulled its stem.

They ARE quite similar it appears?  OR is one of these the 'wrong' one?  I was really just hoping I could use the 70-72 and just lose quick-set date or something :D


Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: ErichKeane on August 21, 2026, 09:24:48 AM
Oh, top one that isn't broken is the 70-72 out of a 722-916 missing a bezel.  The 72b is out of a 722-946 in need of a service.
Title: Re: Differences between 70-72 and 72b Winding Stem?
Post by: YuriyV on August 22, 2026, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: ErichKeane on August 21, 2026, 09:24:48 AMOh, top one that isn't broken is the 70-72 out of a 722-916 missing a bezel.  The 72b is out of a 722-946 in need of a service.
Probably you misinterpreted these two? What I see is the top stem is 72B and lower one is definitely 70-72.
Show us both movements in question.