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Zodiac Jump Hour
« on: July 21, 2014, 10:52:01 AM »
NOT!

201130415452 - Zodiac Jump Hour - Seller: mtwatch

Or so they SAY! We have seen these before, two sellers, one in India and one in the UK. Every time they list one I report it as a fake.

271549125684 - Visiorama

Also here: http://www.retro-watches.co.uk/watches/T-Z/visiorama-jumphour-refja06164.htm

I just found this one and used it as an example as I reported the fake one again. Same one jewel wonder movement.

Hmmm... Maybe Heuer made both of these for Zodiac and Visiorama?
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 01:34:16 PM »
Thanks for the info, Butch. Being new to the vintage Zodiac world this is very good information. The watches to me (newbie) look "funny" but not to the point where I would have known they were fake. On close inspection, it appears that the Zodiac logo on the face was laser etched. This would not have been expected on my part. Thanks again for the very good info!

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 06:22:47 PM »
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if came across that listing I would have believed it.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 06:33:05 PM »
I'm amazed that these things keep being listed on E-bay! I guess E-bay doesn't care that they keep getting reported as fake as long as they collect their fees from it.   :#banghead 

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 07:51:22 PM »
I'm amazed that these things keep being listed on E-bay! I guess E-bay doesn't care that they keep getting reported as fake as long as they collect their fees from it.   :#banghead

Bingo! Or, as we used to say in the 70's, "What he said!"

I swear I have reported over 10 of these between the 2 sellers over the last 6 months.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 08:58:49 AM »
BTW, with 1+ days left this is up to $101 now. Amateurs.  :#C
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 01:11:37 PM »
 :#Laf  $144.50 plus $8 for shipping.  :rofl

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 03:47:50 PM »
It is very unfortunate that you can't contact the bidders on the bay anymore. At one time you could have sent a message to the buyer warning him that it was a fake piece.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 04:43:41 PM »
That was so good, let's do it again! 

201140773906

I am waiting for the day when someone buys one of these and shows up here. I will tell them that I have been reporting these copyright infringing counterfeits to eBay many times, along with many others, and they they need to sue eBay for not protecting them from counterfeits.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 03:23:55 AM »
I sent the Singapore seller the following message through Ebay: "This watch is a fake, correct?"

I will let you know if I receive a reply.

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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2014, 08:10:24 AM »
I sent the Singapore seller the following message through Ebay: "This watch is a fake, correct?"

I will let you know if I receive a reply.

Day three and still waiting on a reply to the above question. How long should I wait? LOL!  :lolz;

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 02:08:59 PM »
That was so good, let's do it again! 

201140773906

I am waiting for the day when someone buys one of these and shows up here. I will tell them that I have been reporting these copyright infringing counterfeits to eBay many times, along with many others, and they they need to sue eBay for not protecting them from counterfeits.

I'll be damned, they cancelled it. Finally.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2014, 06:14:33 PM »
201155053694 - Seller: mtwatch

He's backkkkk! Here is what I said to eBay when I reported this as a fake, yet again.

Zodiac never made a watch like this. Maybe we should report to Zodiac eBay is selling fakes?

Go ahead, have fun with it guys!

Sold on Aug 29, 2014 for $73.00
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 09:31:41 PM »
 :pimp; :#Laf :butchLOL;  WOW,what a beauty. i jewel high quality china movement made by "constructa watch ltd". looks like zodiac might have something to say about it. ebay has some excellent comedy entertainment, a laugh a minute. i cant believe someone paid 144.00 for one of these.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 01:43:14 PM »
Wow, he must have made, er, um, ah, bought up a lot of these.

261587853489

Of course, I reported it to eBay as a fake and said: www.ZodiacWatches.com for trademark infringement
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 02:57:10 PM »
eBay will let these guys sell fake Zodiacs for as long as they can keep collecting their seller fees.  The jump hour watches keep turning up like bad pennies!   :#banghead
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2014, 01:12:57 PM »
The latest one, 261587853489, sold for $310.  :sici


I cannot wait for one of the buyers of these to show up here.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2014, 09:26:36 PM »
I gotta get me some of these so I can start cashing in!   ;)

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2014, 10:06:27 PM »
 :#lol :#Clapping P.T. BARNUM was correct, a fool and his money will soon be parted and a sucker is born every minute!!

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 08:15:07 AM »
Interesting note here, the previous auction above cannot be found by their posted auction numbers now.  This was the one reported to Zodiac.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2014, 08:17:52 AM »
Another one today, this one coming from Thailand and a different seller. The previous ones were from Singapore. Buyer's remorse perhaps? Or merely another outlet?

151425118770 - Seller: updatedialy

Reported to eBay as a fake.

Sold for $249.00 on Oct. 4, 2014.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2014, 08:39:13 PM »
Where do they all come from???     :yeller

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2014, 02:48:23 PM »
201189807586 - Seller: mtwatch

Reported to eBay as a fake.

I guess Zodiac Watches did not care when I reported this to them as they keep turning up on eBay.

Update: Sold for $127.50, plus $10 shipping, on Oct. 15. 2014.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2014, 08:10:37 AM »
161465289478 - Seller: updatedialy

Reported to eBay as a fake.

Sold on Nov. 3rd, 2014 for $258.00.  :sici
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2014, 12:48:15 PM »
201213344260    Seller: mtwatch

Reported to eBay as a fake.

Sold on Nov 15, 2014 for $85.00.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2014, 09:18:33 PM »
201213344260  I wonder what the uninitiated  :#Laf  buyers will bid this one up to??   

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2014, 07:59:53 AM »
151489788084 - Seller: updatedialy

Reported to eBay as a fake.

Sold on Dec 01, 2014 for $160.49.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2014, 09:07:29 AM »
 :#C :#banghead :SB:   BUTCH, i get the feeling ebay is not paying attention to your fake reports!!     :sici

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2014, 09:15:03 AM »
Funny you should say that. But rather than respond I will just say that there is a paper trail now, in more than one site, on how these replicas are being sold and through what medium.

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2014, 10:45:18 AM »
What is funny is that the "Zodiac" and the Zodiac symbol are laser engraved on the front and claimed to be all original.............they did not have laser engraving in 1970 ???

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2014, 10:54:57 AM »
What is funny is that the "Zodiac" and the Zodiac symbol are laser engraved on the front and claimed to be all original.............they did not have laser engraving in 1970 ???

Another thing I found when comparing the logos, it looks to me like they modeled them after the newer Fossil logo, which are different than the Calame logo of the 1970's. I pointed this out to Zodiac when I reported these auctions to them.

Add to that the unsigned crown, the 1 jewel wonder inside, and, well, I am done beating this dead horse.
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2014, 09:50:07 PM »
Add to that the unsigned crown, the 1 jewel wonder inside, and, well, I am done beating this dead horse.

Now I know where all these jump hour watches go when the one jewel movement gives out......




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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2014, 06:14:48 AM »
151520174655 - Seller: updatedialy

Reported to eBay as a fake.

Sold on Dec. XX, 2014 for $XXX.00.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2015, 06:53:30 PM »
151704706805

From another Singapore seller.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2015, 07:47:11 PM »
151704706805

From another Singapore seller.

I reported that monstrosity earlier today, but the 'bay will likely not do anything about it....... :#banghead
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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2015, 11:16:50 PM »
Lot # 311386240275 - seller from UK
Lot # 191605655015 - seller from Canada
here and after around the world  :lafing

"... With adequate profit, capital is very bold. A certain 10 per cent. will ensure its employment anywhere; 20 per cent. certain will produce eagerness; 50 per cent., positive audacity; 100 per cent. will make it ready to trample on all human laws; 300 per cent., and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is here stated.ā€¯ (T. J. Dunning, l. c., pp. 35, 36.)

I believe profit from that fake Zodiac is way above 300%
So it will continue

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 06:22:54 PM »
Another satisfied customer.

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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 07:10:23 PM »
Another satisfied customer.

202679168909

Hmmmm, based on their 'bay username I expected to see something "valuable".........


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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2019, 12:01:15 AM »
BUTCH :

EBAY DOESN'T CARE WHAT YOU REPORT, AS LONG AS THEY GET THEIR CUT OF THE CAKE !!!

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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2019, 05:06:01 AM »
So true my friend, so true.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2019, 09:54:07 AM »
OMG!!  $1,000.00! "Condition: Pre-owned"!!!

 :ar15;   273979187980

 :what :yeller            :no not me


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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2019, 12:38:16 PM »
Just in case anyone is interested, Butch posts all of these fake Zodiacs for sale at the 'bay to raise his profit margin.. He has many ebay seller names that he uses to throw everyone off his trail.. He makes them in his Mom's house at  his basement workshop with an army of clones made from DNA of Keebler elves, he feeds them scraps of dead watch batteries... Mystery now solved !!!!
 ...........
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2019, 01:16:21 PM »
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2019, 04:56:13 PM »
OMG!!  $1,000.00! "Condition: Pre-owned"!!!

 :ar15;   273979187980

 :what :yeller            :no not me


                 :nosmily

This seller has quite a few Zodiacs, all seemingly overpriced.

For example: 273928391274

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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2019, 06:11:34 PM »
Agreed. But read the whole thread here. This is my mission.
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2019, 12:21:47 AM »
mmm
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Re: Zodiac Jump Hour
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2019, 06:30:56 AM »
I am still waiting for someone who buys one of these to show up here! Poor fella.

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« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2019, 01:05:54 PM »
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