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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Lesson learned
« Last post by Ultra-Vintage on December 15, 2017, 10:09:40 AM »
I have heard all kinds of stories of people cleaning dials with anything from water to steel wool to lighter fluid......

My biggest piece of advice to anyone is do not touch a vintage dial with anything.  A light cleaning is what can safely be done (at best), and some dials cannot even take that.  Each dial is a special case, because how the dial has aged and its possible fragility is a combination of its original manufacture (the type of background finish/plating, the laquer used, whether the lacquer was too thin/too thick), and the environment it has been in over its life (damage, moisture, chemical exposure from hacks etc).

Dials make watches, period.  Of the watches that collectors care about, most of the value within them is held in the dial.
 The case or movement having issues can often be corrected to some extent.  The dial, not so much, and it is only original once.  So any attempt to do anything crazy to try and clean a dial is essentially gambling with a majority of the value of the watch.  Potential cleaners beware.......

 :SB:
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Lesson learned
« Last post by Butch on December 14, 2017, 10:24:05 AM »
Thanks for the answer. Most will not even touch a dial, just blow it off with a bulb befor reassembling.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Lesson learned
« Last post by YuriyV on December 14, 2017, 10:10:29 AM »
Tritium luminescent compound on markers is extremely sensitive to water. It dissolves almost immediately. Especially in warm water. The same for paint and varnish. They are not water resistant.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Lesson learned
« Last post by bronco306 on December 14, 2017, 08:58:03 AM »
I have done this successfully on newer watches. Late 60s and up. Decent results.

Momentary lapse.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Lesson learned
« Last post by Butch on December 14, 2017, 07:39:55 AM »
In all my years of collecting I have never heard of anyone trying that. What made you think that was gonna work out for you?

NOT knoking you at all either.
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General Zodiac Discussion / Lesson learned
« Last post by bronco306 on December 14, 2017, 12:56:13 AM »
I dont know if i purchased an old redial or if my water from the tap is actually paint thinner but when i tried to clean up the dial on a newly acquired zodiac seawolf the dial lasted less than 10 seconds in the water. all script and dial marks gone, even the numbers at 12, 3,6, and 9. wiped out in a flash..

good thing i already went through the movement and determined it good for parts only but is always a shame to see a dial go. 
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Vintage Zodiacs For Sale - Pre 1999 / Re: FS: Triple Date Auto
« Last post by jmh86325 on December 13, 2017, 11:49:56 AM »
as a deposit  :rofl ...thank you for the offer, but no...not making anything on this one, bought it here for $425 (funds went to great cause...Disabled American Vets) and had BWG service it, new watchband...PLUS I'm shipping for free (conus)...do the math... since I haven't really bonded with it I thought I give a fellow Zodiac'r an opportunity at it first before I put on fleabay...cheers Jose
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Vintage Zodiacs For Sale - Pre 1999 / Re: FS: Triple Date Auto
« Last post by showpig on December 12, 2017, 10:06:30 PM »
Would you be interested in $400.00?
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I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / WW1 trench with A.Calame Fils movement
« Last post by radicimo on December 12, 2017, 05:29:18 PM »
I know it's not a zodiac per se, but seems like it could be grandfathered in. Have to say this one has caught my eye (and clearly not only just mine).

162793523871

Opinions? Looks to me like the crown is not original. A lot of brassing on the case, but oh that dial and shrapnel guard sure are pretty.
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That is a dress watch from the 70's. Not very popular I am afraid. If you put it on eBay you may get $100, maybe a little more as you have the original band.

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