Be an informed Zodiac Collector. Check out the Vintage Zodiac Catalogs Website

Recent Posts

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10
82
like our sensei once said...

" just because your phone has a camera doesn't mean you have to use it"....Butch

enough said  :sam
83
153409452031
"Clear, see through case back. Have not seen or found one like this, obviously rare, unique."

Very clear view through the case back.
 :lafing
84
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Does this look like a fake?
« Last post by YuriyV on March 10, 2019, 06:43:46 PM »
It is in a good shape, indeed
85
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Does this look like a fake?
« Last post by Butch on March 10, 2019, 03:21:18 PM »
But it is already more $$$ than I would pay for one now!
86
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Does this look like a fake?
« Last post by Butch on March 10, 2019, 09:25:12 AM »
Not really. I can't see the groove for the spring though. Sometimes the pictures are just not good enough for me to tell. If I needed one I might buy it and put a spring in it and try it on my case. That would be the moment of truth.

To be honest, it looks like an early model friction fit bezel. I was surprised in his comments he mentions the spring.
87
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Does this look like a fake?
« Last post by YuriyV on March 09, 2019, 11:36:39 PM »
173829792804
88
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Zodiac Education Never Ends
« Last post by YuriyV on March 09, 2019, 12:38:35 PM »
Oh, well. I don't want to convince anybody. Just saying my understanding.

Regarding price. It is all about the market. If owner of a vintage GMT wants to simply wear his father's watch and wants to have it complete he pays for aftermarket/not original part because he does not care about its originality. Why not? Seller/serviceman must disclose to him it is not original Zodiac part though. That is it. And price will be whatever these two agreed. Not $200.
89
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Zodiac Education Never Ends
« Last post by Ultra-Vintage on March 09, 2019, 12:04:15 PM »
Definitely. Everything said above regarding originality is true.
Although without proper context we risk to make wrong conclusions.
Nova days producing parts for vintage watches mainly harm us, collectors.
But 30-40 years ago it was different situation. These watches were regular wearable pieces.
Parts were needed to fulfill regular service demand.
But there was no production due to obvious reasons (Zodiac bankruptcy).
So, somebody ordered a batch for their service department.
Or Zodiac, as all other brands, order parts from third party companies, experimenting with different suppliers/styles? Who knows.
As result, standard bezels (regular Sea Wolf and GMT) from that batch were spent many moons ago.
And we can see very weird leftovers.

As illustration, here is a same Sea Wolf in 946 case. It is for regular Bakelite spring loaded bezel.
As we can see, these thick metal bezels fit this and only this case perfectly. They can fit other Zodiac SW and GMT cases only if glued. So my biggest question is regarding that watch in the topic starter post. Does bezel rotate or glued/soldered?
If it does rotate, than spring loaded cases for GMT did exist (issued by Zodiac) and my above thoughts have some sense.

You can believe that, and try to convince others of that, but I disagree.  As I said, aftermarket has its place, when disclosed as aftermarket. The backstory you are describing is one of 4 provided by the Italian peddler of these bezels, none of which are really believable and all are done for profit.

You can take a $200 Seawolf missing a bezel bought for parts.  Without the bezel it is not truly a wearable watch.  Adding an aftermarket bezel, when a genuine one cannot be obtained, could make it a wearable watch. Now you have a wearable watch, but to me it is still a $200 parts watch.  Definitely not the several hundred dollars and up online sellers are asking for them, and still calling them "all original".....

90
I saw this Zodiac on the Internet... / Re: Zodiac Education Never Ends
« Last post by YuriyV on March 09, 2019, 11:58:40 AM »
I see. Completely understandable. Hope we will be little bit closer to the truth in this aspect of Zodiac history.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10

CopyrightŠ 2018, All Rights Reserved. This site may not be reproduced.
By accessing this web site you agree to not take any images for use on any other web sites.

Advertising Information  |  Privacy Policy  |  About Us 

Visit the Zodiac manufacture's web site at www.zodiacwatches.com for all your post-1990 Zodiac needs.
This web site is not affiliated with Fossil, Inc, current Zodiac brand owners

Website by Face Forward Studios

Clebar Watches
Zodiac Sign
  Top Watch Sites