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#21
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by YuriyV - August 27, 2026, 09:15:36 AM
Looks like the parts came from different watches. Ref number 722 946 indicates NO quick set date (i.e. 70-72 should be inside). If you flip the movement over we can see if it is designated for quick set feature. Probably somebody just replaced the rotor.
#22
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by ErichKeane - August 26, 2026, 09:17:37 AM
And HERE is the 72B that has a broken stem.  As I mentioned, it is torn down.  The rotor says 72B, and it is a 722-946.  It arrived to me seemingly functional, but with a stem that 'didn't work' at all, which was because it was broken.
#23
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by ErichKeane - August 26, 2026, 09:15:55 AM
Sorry for the delay, but I appreciate your help so far!

The 72B I have disassembled at the moment, but HERE are the pictures of the Zodiac that showed up with an in-tact stem, a 722-916. You can see it is marked 70-72.


#24
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by YuriyV - August 22, 2026, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: ErichKeane on August 21, 2026, 09:24:48 AMOh, top one that isn't broken is the 70-72 out of a 722-916 missing a bezel.  The 72b is out of a 722-946 in need of a service.
Probably you misinterpreted these two? What I see is the top stem is 72B and lower one is definitely 70-72.
Show us both movements in question.
#25
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by ErichKeane - August 21, 2026, 09:24:48 AM
Oh, top one that isn't broken is the 70-72 out of a 722-916 missing a bezel.  The 72b is out of a 722-946 in need of a service.
#26
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by ErichKeane - August 21, 2026, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: Ultra-Vintage on August 20, 2026, 12:56:15 PMNot the same stem at all, completely different shape.  Being a different stem shape also means the winding pinion and sliding gear have different hole sizes as well.  Long story short, use only the correct stem.

I realized I have a 70-72 as well in my 'TODO' pile (though its missing a bezel, so it might never get to 'do'), and pulled its stem.

They ARE quite similar it appears?  OR is one of these the 'wrong' one?  I was really just hoping I could use the 70-72 and just lose quick-set date or something :D


#27
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by Butch - August 21, 2026, 06:02:37 AM
Thanks UV! I did not think so and was surprised the parts catalog said that.
#28
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by Ultra-Vintage - August 20, 2026, 12:56:15 PM
Not the same stem at all, completely different shape.  Being a different stem shape also means the winding pinion and sliding gear have different hole sizes as well.  Long story short, use only the correct stem.
#29
General Zodiac Discussion / Re: Differences between 70-72 ...
Last post by Butch - August 20, 2026, 05:58:47 AM
All I can offer is that the parts catalog shows the same stem, 401, for all 7x and 8x calbers. Can anyone else offer anything on this?
#30
General Zodiac Discussion / Differences between 70-72 and ...
Last post by ErichKeane - August 19, 2026, 12:47:06 PM
Hi all-
I'm trying to fix up a 72B in a 722-946, and it arrived to me with a broken winding stem.  My research/other posts here have shown this is basically unobtainable to replace, but I had a few questions:

1- Can the 70-72 stem be installed in the 72b?  I know the only difference is quick-set-date, but it would presumably be acceptable to be missing that.

2- Barring that, does anyone know the differences/can show a picture of the differences between the two?  I guess I could always pick up a lathe and try to modify it if it isn't horribly different.

Thank you in advance!

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